[Yak] Re: Yak Digest, Vol 54, Issue 11

[Geof Gee]

The amount of scientific evidence that convincingly estimates the difference in risk between riding in a bike lane and in a regular travel lane is virtually zero.  You can make arguments based on theory and examine some descriptive statistics.  And everyone has their anecdotal stories that support their own notions of safe cycling.  But a statement that claims bike lanes is "much more dangerous" -- is this an order of magnitude? -- than the center of travel lanes without tons of caveats is overstating the evidence, IMO.  

 
Back to folding bikes.  

-G

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----- Original Message ----
From: Tony Raven <tony at raven-family.com>
To: yak at bikefriday.com
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 12:15:00 PM
Subject: [Yak] Re: Yak Digest, Vol 54, Issue 11

They were not doing everything right.  It has been very clearly
demonstrated that riding in bike lanes and similar is much more
dangerous because you are out of the way and therefore out of the mind
of motorists, particularly at junctions where most accidents happen.
Have a read of John Forester or John Allen's stuff on vehicular cycling.
If you want to be seen by motorists you need to ride where motorists
are looking - riding with the traffic, as counter-intuitive as it might
seem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicular_cycling

Tony

> From: "ve hansen" <veehansen at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Yak] High Intensity Headlamps /bike safety
> To: YAK <yak at bikefriday.com>
>
> just a few thoughts
> 
> .Personal safety being very important
> (i have cared for two bike riders in the last several weeks
> who were hit by cars inspite of the fact that they were in
> bike lanes and crosswalk and doing everything "right")
> 


> 
> Being safe is very important in my mind.
> 
> thank you
> v
> 
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